Greetings from shitsville
For any of you that don't know(that'll most likely be all of you except rob then) that title is the title of a wildhearts song. I'm not all that unhappy at the moment really(no more than usual anyway) but I thought it would make a good title.
On to the post, and I may as well inform you at this point that I have no idea what I am going to write in this post, I never do. I just completely make it up off the top of my head. So what the hell shall I write, hmm. I know, no I don't...YES I DO!!!!
I will write about nothing,
Well that was interesting, and a complete waste of space, but that was in fact the first thing that came into my head. I have been in a pub though.
Or I could write about how I think that the satanic bible is a book I was considering buying today. These are the 9 satanic statements...I thought they were quite fair really. Especially IV, be kind to people that deserve it, well that is quite fair. I know this could sound like I am nast and evil, but I'm just curious about the subject. I also don't see much evil in these 9 statements.
I
Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
II
Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
III
Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
IV
Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
V
Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
VI
Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!
VII
Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those who walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development," has become the most vicious animal of all!
VIII
Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
IX
Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!
The 9 satanic sins are a bit more like what I thought satanism could be like, but still there are a lot of very valid points there.
1) Stupidity--The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2) Pretentiousness--Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn't applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone's made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3) Solipsism--can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses, and sensibilities onto someone else who is probably far less attuned that you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy, and respect that you naturally give them. They won't. Instead Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of "Do unto others as they do onto you." It's work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian viewpoint) we are from that point.
4) Self-Deceit--It's in the Nine Satanic Statement but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered is when it is fun, and with awareness. But then, it's not self-deceit!
5) Herd Conformity--That's obvious from a Satanic stance. It's all right to conform to a person's wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of many.
6) Lack of Perspective--Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, everyday. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit the things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. So not be swayed herd constraints--know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7) Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxy's--Be aware that this one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something as "new" and "different", when in reality it's something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the "creator" and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8) Counterproductive Pride--The first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bath water. The rule of Satanism is if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you've painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow," then do it.
9) Lack of Aesthetics--This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. It is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off it most of the tome so it is discouraged in a consumer society, but is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for magical effectiveness. It's not what's supposed to be pleasing--it's what is. Aesthetics is a highly personal thing, reflective of one's own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
These are also very fair, I don't see the problem with this at all. Maybe I should do more research so I can comment fully, but so far it seems a lot more sensible and realistic than christianity.
I
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
II
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure that they want to hear them.
III
When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
IV
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
V
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
VI
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved.
VII
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have used it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
VIII
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
IX
Do not harm little children.
X
Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food.
XI
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
Anton Szandor LaVey, 1967 c.e.
Now I'm not turning into a satanist, and I do realise that religion gives hope to people, and sometimes it can be great, but there is also a lot of rubbish that in not necessary, and these rules seem more useful in the society of today. But if I now find out it is also all about killing and all that then obviously I won't agree, but these are fair to me. Feel free to comment, or come at me with burning pitchforks...
On to the post, and I may as well inform you at this point that I have no idea what I am going to write in this post, I never do. I just completely make it up off the top of my head. So what the hell shall I write, hmm. I know, no I don't...YES I DO!!!!
I will write about nothing,
Well that was interesting, and a complete waste of space, but that was in fact the first thing that came into my head. I have been in a pub though.
Or I could write about how I think that the satanic bible is a book I was considering buying today. These are the 9 satanic statements...I thought they were quite fair really. Especially IV, be kind to people that deserve it, well that is quite fair. I know this could sound like I am nast and evil, but I'm just curious about the subject. I also don't see much evil in these 9 statements.
I
Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence!
II
Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!
III
Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!
IV
Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on ingrates!
V
Satan represents vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek!
VI
Satan represents responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires!
VII
Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those who walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development," has become the most vicious animal of all!
VIII
Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!
IX
Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!
The 9 satanic sins are a bit more like what I thought satanism could be like, but still there are a lot of very valid points there.
1) Stupidity--The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.
2) Pretentiousness--Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn't applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone's made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.
3) Solipsism--can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses, and sensibilities onto someone else who is probably far less attuned that you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy, and respect that you naturally give them. They won't. Instead Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of "Do unto others as they do onto you." It's work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, from a Machiavellian viewpoint) we are from that point.
4) Self-Deceit--It's in the Nine Satanic Statement but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered is when it is fun, and with awareness. But then, it's not self-deceit!
5) Herd Conformity--That's obvious from a Satanic stance. It's all right to conform to a person's wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of many.
6) Lack of Perspective--Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, everyday. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit the things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. So not be swayed herd constraints--know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.
7) Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxy's--Be aware that this one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something as "new" and "different", when in reality it's something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the "creator" and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society.
8) Counterproductive Pride--The first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bath water. The rule of Satanism is if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you've painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, "I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow," then do it.
9) Lack of Aesthetics--This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. It is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off it most of the tome so it is discouraged in a consumer society, but is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for magical effectiveness. It's not what's supposed to be pleasing--it's what is. Aesthetics is a highly personal thing, reflective of one's own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.
These are also very fair, I don't see the problem with this at all. Maybe I should do more research so I can comment fully, but so far it seems a lot more sensible and realistic than christianity.
I
Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
II
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure that they want to hear them.
III
When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
IV
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
V
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
VI
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved.
VII
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have used it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
VIII
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
IX
Do not harm little children.
X
Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food.
XI
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
Anton Szandor LaVey, 1967 c.e.
Now I'm not turning into a satanist, and I do realise that religion gives hope to people, and sometimes it can be great, but there is also a lot of rubbish that in not necessary, and these rules seem more useful in the society of today. But if I now find out it is also all about killing and all that then obviously I won't agree, but these are fair to me. Feel free to comment, or come at me with burning pitchforks...
Uttered by Motormouth at approximately 8:55 am
4 Comments:
People get hysterical about Satanism who haven't actually looked at the precepts, a bit like wicca. Or Islam. I'm aethiest, but have a copy of the Bible, Koran and Satanic Bible, all of which I admit I treat with respect because of what they represent to others. One chat room (for geeks) denouced me as a highly dangerous, educated heretic, which I took as a compliment!
*Sharpens Pitchfork.
lol, nah Im only joking, im an atheist too, as is my brother, but he has that and many other satanic related books, i'll have to give them a good read now!
i'm sorry to say i've had to dob you in to my parish inquisitor.
:P
Very true comments here. In my opinion, Religion is is strange phenomenon. Humans seem to have reached a strange mental state where they see themselves as the most intelligent beings on the planet. This is a fearful concept for most people, so the put their faith in the possibility of a higher life form. The main problem this causes is conflict between different beliefs, which is foolish in my opinion. Live and let live etc. believe what you want to believe, express your views with others, but don't impose them. Most religions have fallen foul of this, and its just unneccesary.
Personally, I believe theres something out there, not an entity as such, but some kind of force that kicks things off, science has shown how life developed, but has left big holes in what exactly started it. We may never know.
anyway. Rant over. continue to talk among yourselves.
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